F43 Change Proposal: PHP 8.5 (self-contained)

Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/php85
Discussion thread -
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-php-8-5-self-contained/160774

This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.


== Summary ==
Update the PHP stack in Fedora to the latest version 8.5.x

== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:Remi| Remi Collet]] and [[SIGs/PHP|PHP SIG]]
* Email: remi at fedoraproject dot org

* A testing SCL (and soon testing module) is available in my
[https://blog.remirepo.net/post/2025/07/04/PHP-8.5-as-Software-Collection
repository]
* List of [https://github.com/remicollet/remirepo/issues/307
extensions compatibility list]
* [https://wiki.php.net/todo/php85 Upstream schedule for 8.5]


== Detailed Description ==

Update the PHP stack in Fedora to latest version 8.4.x.

Fedora has a 6 months cycle, PHP a 1 year cycle, our common practice
for some years:

* 2 Fedora cycles for each PHP minor release (exceptions below)
* 3 Fedora cycles for latest minor (e.g. 5.6 or 7.4) to give more time
before next major
* 1 Fedora cycle for first major (e.g. 7.0 or 8.0)

Fedora 40 and 41 have PHP 8.3, Fedora 42 and 43 have PHP 8.4.

As this version should be the last 8.x (before 9.0), it should be in
Fedora 44, 45 and 46.
If the PHP project chooses to do an 8.6, it should land in 46.

== Benefit to Fedora ==

Provides the latest PHP version to developers and system administrators.



== Scope ==
* Proposal owners: Check Koschei status. Test with latest version to
ensure compatibility. Work with upstream on bug fixing. Needed mass
rebuild (C extensions) done by change owner.

* Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Release engineering:[https://pagure.io/releng/issues #Releng issue number]

* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)


== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== How To Test ==

* The PHP stack (extensions and libraries) are monitored by Koschei,
see the [https://apps.fedoraproject.org/koschei/groups/php?order_by=state%2C-started
Koschei PHP group]
* install and play with your web applications

== User Experience ==

Developers and system administrators will have the great benefit or
running the latest PHP version.


== Dependencies ==

All php-* packages (and some *-php)

== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: Drop not compatible (and not fixable) packages.
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Documentation ==

* [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/php/php-src/master/UPGRADING UPGRADING]
* [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/php/php-src/master/UPGRADING.INTERNALS
UPGRADING.INTERNALS]

== Release Notes ==

--
Aoife Moloney

Fedora Operations Architect

Fedora Project

Matrix: @amoloney:fedora.im

IRC: amoloney

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